My idea of pure hell. Copyright 2023 Interview Magazine. I used to start at midnight, but thats gotten pushed up, so now its common for me to start at three in the morning. Youre so judgmental I would find it helpful. My mother came from Dominica, and the thing about those little islands is that people from one island or the other dont like each other. Its not human nature. LEBOWITZ: I mean, because I had no money. But you need more room to do that. Another time I saw a real pretty girl standing in front of the mirror with a little tiny cigarette butt hanging out of her mouth, teasing her hair. I really wanted someone to save me. Im sorry, were full up. . There are certain relationships I think Im great at: Im the worlds greatest daughter. I wrote a musical comedy for my grandparents 35th wedding anniversary. Theres a huge gap in what people know, and theres no context for it anymore. Lebowitz: Ill never make it as a typist. The title song was sung by a truck. Theres no reason why it has to be the way it is. Fran Lebowitz is an American author and a public speaker. A childrens book, Annie, Gwen, Lilly, Pam and Tulip, came out in 1986. Lebowitz: I was unceremoniously expelled from prep school in my senior year for no apparent reason. I don't care how she makes her money but she helps make the world a better place in to live in. In the past ten years, Lebowitz has been a regular guest on the television showLate Nightwith David Letterman. Good Books Books To Read Acceptance Speech National Book Award Wordsmith Great Words Ex Libris Reading Material Women Humor More information . Pretend It's a City. Twenty-five people sitting in the room staring at you while you are thinking. LEBOWITZ: Money. Interview, at the time, six people read it, believe me. High Times: Tell me about your writing habits. In an essay specially commissioned for the podcast, Aisha Sabatini Sloan describes rambling around Paris with her father, Lester Sloan, a longtime staff photographer for Newsweek, and a glamorous woman who befriends them. High Times: Were you a behavior problem in school? I would personally just like to vet each person. Just one day the headmaster woke up and thought. Lebowitz: I only wrote one by myself. When asked about the long delay in its delivery to her publisher, she explained that she only works on it on the side. "It would have been . Lebowitz: My writing habits are basically nonwriting habits. CLEMENTE: You were not good at math in school? I was caught smoking, and I didnt have the cigarette in my hand or smoke coming out of my mouth, and they suspended me anyway, so it turned out not to be true, just suspicion was enough. I also used to write a zillion songs. General with two other people who were also smashed out of their minds. The episode closes with Dear Someone, a poem by Deborah Landau. On the Boston University phone you dialed N-E-E-D and a concerned Jewish graduate student came over and took me to Mass. He wasnt a comedian, but he was the funniest talk-show guest. LEBOWITZ: Yes, I was born in New Jersey and I lived in New Jersey until I was 18. CBD Could Inhibit Nicotine Metabolism, According to New Study, Cannabis Lounge Planned for Atlantic City Hotel, Bill Seeks To Ease Medical Cannabis Restrictions for New Mexico Firefighters, Heated Debate Erupts on Reddit Over Weed Etiquette at Concerts, Study: Personal Psychedelic Use Common Among Therapists, Jons Stone-Cold Cop List #34: Late Flowers for the Hallmark Day, The Gang Goes to Thailand: Learning the Thai Way (Part 3), The Anthropologist Who Became a Shaman Cult Leader, How Hip-Hop Icons Naughty By Nature Blazed Past the Sleepers, From the Archives: Even Cowgirls Get the Blues (1976), From the Archives: I Wish I Had Invented Sex (1978). She has two children from her marriage to the composer Allen Shawn, the son of the former New Yorker editor William Shawn, and in the living room she displays on a tableproudly, apologeticallyproductions from the arts-and-crafts camps and classes that her son and daughter attended over the years. Well, I work on amachine. It used to be a tradition in agricultural families that youd sacrifice the eldest child. The most interesting one I went to was for a company that wanted to make a vodka for women. I met Marc in . High Times: Did you ever get any bad reactions from your bad movie reviews? They used the big Big Apple sign to lure these people who hate New Yorkbecause everyone hated New York thento New York. One is that deers are rats. I dont like to go out during the dayits too crowded. First of all, there were a zillion bad jobs. He said theyd fix it. Speaking to celebrated New Yorker Fran Lebowitz over the phone is an experience as hilarious and eye-opening as one would imagine it to be. If someone else has to write, then you know you have a willing companion to talk to on the phone for hours and hours while they put off their writing. If you don't know Fran Lebowitz, you'll get to know her very well in Pretend It's a City, the new 7-episode docuseries directed by her longtime friend, Martin Scorsese.Lebowitz has been . Fran Lebowitz moved to New York City from her hometown of Morristown, NJ when she was 19. I never had any skilled jobs because I never had any skills. FRAN LEBOWITZ: The blood pressure or the air pressure? Customers paid 99 an hour to listen to this garbage. Why was your first apartment so horrible, apart from the roaches? So in New York we have zillions of different kinds of people, many of them hate each other, but violence based on that hatred is really uncommon here. Any attempt to prove otherwise constitutes unacceptable behavior. I cant believe anyone has ever made a ballet. My whole movie consciousness was based on movies no one else had ever seen. Im going out. Im the only person left who is this irresponsible. Its the thing that Im most criticized for. The two things I hate the most. But perhaps it makes senseI grew up in a place where I saw the sea every day and, near the end of my life, Im living in a place where the water has run out. High Times: If someone offered you an hour TV special that you could do anything with, what would you do? AIDS completely changed American culture. She is alive to the advantage in the irony that her literary heritage had not predicted her, exalted, brave, free. Lebowitz spent the pandemic alone, at her own insistence, having turned down offers to lock down with wealthy friends at their Hamptons homes . Polka Dotty ate seeds and celery tops, and my mother would give me Polka Dottys food, and I would go downstairs and eat it. Meet Fran Lebowitz and join her on her rambles as she muses about deadly distractions, Times Square terror, subway stoppers and total building fails. More information Initially, she covered "Best of the Worst Movies," but later changed the name of her column to "I Cover the . Used Planes comes out every single month. More at IMDbPro Contact info Agent info Resume Born October 27, 1950 Add to list Nominated for 1 Primetime Emmy 1 win & 3 nominations total LEBOWITZ: It really depended. We Pick Up With Our Adventurers As The Party Begins. Brooklyn was the borough of grandparents. Lebowitz: Not Samuel Z. Arkoff or anyone, but the press agent there loved me. But all the rest of them were, including Jeb Bush. I do remember that the worst movie I ever saw was called Four Flies on Gray Velvet, with Mimsy Farmer, one of your great loves. After the latters death, the former mysteriously disappeared. They were also the most interesting people. I write with a pen. Her voice is as musical as ever, high-pitched, the Anglo-Caribbean lilt beguiling. Im not afraid to be on TV. But, third of all, I used to say, I just cant go into a deli and order a roast beef sandwich and give them this.. Most families are a bunch of unattractive dopes. I just dont want to hear someone else walking around. Then I read it to someone who writes it onto the computer. CLEMENTE: The blood pressure will drop. In person, that voice pours out in great glittering riffs (on politics and personal space, on AIDS, the 80s, New York, and everything in between) that set Lebowitz atop our list of dream dinner-party guests and probably put her in the running for greatest talkers ever. He writes for the New Yorker. But what I cant be is monogamous. I rolled my own cigarettes. Id just sit at a desk and talk. I got a lot of tips. There are these prototypes all over the place, mixed in with my own crummy furniture. I was a big fan of Sky King. And the matron walked in, and the girl actually swallowed it. Ive never seen the Kardashians; Im not sure who they are. When I first came here, meeting writers wasnt available to me; but now that I have met tons of those people, I wish I hadnt. They have a fresh approach. Im simply not a fan of navet. A pen goes exactly at your speed, whereas that machine jumps. There were maybe 40 poems, the only poems I ever wrote. The duo were discussing their childhoods, saying as children they were never able to partake in "adult" conversations unless they were . Okay? You might want this, but I will do that. So I would lie in bed and make up book reports about books that I made up. Because I had an ounce of marijuana. Knowledge of a culture. I Married Joan, I Love Lucy, I loved all those situation comedies. He packs them, and then every time you move, they have to be put in different ways. But there was a myth about her. It wasnt enough that he had Charles Mingus playing there every night. I wanted consciousness-restricting drugs; thats why I used to like liquor. And now I eat a steak before I write, like a prizefighter. People say, Well, what would you do with Times Square? And I always think, Gee, I dont know. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. And he did those illustrations. It was the most money Id ever made. I would have gotten a scholarship. Since 1974, High Times Magazine has been the #1 resource for cannabis news, culture, brands and marijuana legalization laws. Unless they die. But you could live in New York. They were terrible. Ray Millands head was on Rosie Grier. After gaining recognition for her I Cover the Waterfront, Lebowitz moved onto Mademooiselle before publishing her first two books, Metropolitan Life and Social Studies. What could they be thinking? Once I wrote a column for Interview called Send This Girl to Camp where I set myself up as some sort of fresh-air-fund child and announced that I wanted to go to camp: I invented a camp called Camp Sensibility and asked people for contributions to send me there. This must be about 15 years ago. She began a similar column (although PG rated) in Mademoiselle. It was the only thing I wanted to be except for a brief flirtation with wanting to be a cellist. But my mother didnt tell me. No one else remembers things from this whole period, but I wasnt high. I like Thurber. By Susan Devaney. CLEMENTE: I think in your life youve said no more than yes. CLEMENTE: Youre a New Yorker, but you were raised in New Jersey, no? CLEMENTE: How do you keep ten thousand books in order, do you have a personal librarian? Fran was raised in Morristown, New Jersey. Like everyone else, I never imagined Donald Trump would get this far. And sometimes I went on at ten oclock in the morning and read to the guy sweeping up from the night before. You see a young girl wearing a headscarf, and standing next to her is a Hasid. A pen. Saying no is a little different. Theres too much distance. I got up every morning, brushed my teeth and went to the Village Vanguard and read poetry. In the case of most good writers the writing is better than they are. He wrote a lot of books. One of them was my columns. Now I call up friends during the day and theyre writing. I have about ten thousand. And even when America is not working that well, it still works better than other places. "If you can eat it, it's not art. In introducing Fran Lebowitz to a contemporary large audience, the combination of biographical perspective and quasi-vrit style addresses the opposition between private and public (Arendt and Habermas). Like, this is the smart one, this is the pretty one. But I just cant smile at people for money. I dont think I was still writing for Interview, but once you go outside your natural audience, there are tons of people that dont like you. That was actually a job. People were pretty angry in general then. I watched 400 Bayer aspirin commercials. Fran Lebowitz, ca. President Biden repeatedly framed his campaign and his administration as defending "the rule of law" after what he and others portrayed as the lawless reign of President Trump . LEBOWITZ: Here are my qualifications: I am a New Yorker. I would have liked to have met Nabokov. So I have a state diploma. Thats what Id like to do. When it was on at 1:30 I saw no reason to get up in the morning, but now its on at 11:30, so sometimes I wake up to watch it. Fran Lebowitz, who is featured "Pretend It's a City" on Netflix. Because if people dont hold grudges, it means they just dont care what people do. Lebowitz: I went through a period of watching $20,000 Pyramid, but it was too frustrating because every day I won $20,000 and I have no money. Fran Lebowitz was born on 27 October 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, USA. In an excerpt from The Art of Fiction no. Holding a grudge is the modern equivalent of having standards. Immigrants are good, tourists are bad. Correct? China is not a great idea: capitalism and a dictator. I loved dressing up and going out. Rare Vintage Andy Warhol's INTERVIEW Magazine, September 1981, featuringCover: FRAN LEBOWITZ w/ feature interview by JOHN WATERS (HYSTERICAL! I also have the Family Feud home game, but I cant figure out how to play it. There was a sink in the bathroom. I read How to Be a Naked Bus Driver and My Brother Was an Only Child. CLEMENTE: And the illustrations were by Marc Balet? I wanted to see Robert Young. Lebowitz: Every single time Ive ever written I thought I couldnt do it. It was originally built as a sailors rooming house, because its very close to the river. General? And I said, Because I liked your clever ads.. The way the admissions director of Harvard decides who goes to Harvard, Id like to decide who comes here. A brief follow-up conversation took place over the phone to Lebowitz, who had decamped to Princeton, New Jersey, where she was renting the house of a noted architect and sometime furniture designer. For instance, I, unfortunately, take the subway a lot. So they would talk to me. Male writers like them because they have this sneaking suspicion that writing is not the most masculine profession. Steve paid me excessive amounts of money to answer his telephone. General in Boston. Ill take you to 21 if you type for me. Ive typed some of my columns. Exec Producer, Star, "Pretend It's a City" Having previously starred in and produced a documentary with pal Martin Scorsese (HBO's "Public Speaking"), Lebowitz knew what type of . 5. "Pretend it's a citywhere there are other people ," she pleads. And Orson Welles agrees Behind him comes Fran Lebowitz, flustered from whatever is going on in the street. The one I wrote myself was called House of Leather. Fran Lebowitz has tough love for tough COVID-19 times. You can get this book in the Derby Library in Derby, Connecticut, where my grandmother lives.. This will come as no surprise to anyone who is even vaguely familiar with her work, which, in the past four decades, has largely consisted of being Fran Lebowitz: a strong-willed, grumpy,. But this idea that people cannot kill each other? Every single one. And I participated a lot in market research. Me and, like, five of what I then thought of as old menthey were probably 40smoking cigars, watching these movies. And the truth is that most families have no smart ones and no pretty ones. Im a horrible girlfriend. Lebowitz: I was 19 at the time, so I thought it was entertaining. These four guys figured out how to lift New York out of this dire financial condition with the campaign I Love NY. I hated this thing. Then I switched to Carlton in an attempt not to smoke too much, and now I smoke nine times more Carltons than I ever smoked anything else. I wrote an editorial about the matron and got kicked off the paper. I picked up two famous people: one was Dr. Joyce Brothers, who undertipped me, and one was Rod Steiger. I also did some subcontract work for porn writers. CLEMENTE: So everything that you write is written by hand? I wanted to know what a vodka for women meant. In those days you smoked whatever pot you had that day, so rather than share with others I smoked as much as I could humanly smoke. Volume 1: Best of First Decade 1969-1979. I had never really read any poetry, so it was a completely invented style. was he fascinating? But all the girls I knew when I was young who had to workthere were rich girlsbut the ones who had to work were waitresses. We didnt live well. I now dread the getting-it-typed part as much as I dread the writing part. Because if people dont hold grudges, it means they just dont care what people do.FRAN LEBOWITZ, LEBOWITZ: It was for The New York Times. He was the most inventive cabbie I ever met. screening with three movies and lunch. I was very bitter about it because I had before me what seemed to be a successful future. And I also knew I didnt want to write like anyone else. Paper, you can feel it. I like people older than me and children, really little children. I saw an ad in the Village Voice that said WantedPoets. This really weird guy named Jack Scully, who was an ex-monk, had somehow convinced Max Gordon, who owned the Village Vanguard, that the fact that the Vanguard was empty during the day was losing him a great fortune. Or acceptance or understanding. One of the other ones was a Manson-type film, a hippie death cult. Wander the New York City streets and fascinating mind of wry writer, humorist and raconteur Fran Lebowitz as she sits down with Martin Scorsese. It actually works here. Monday June 7 2021. French symbolist? Tolerance is really a better thing than understanding. And then, that machine is waiting for you, just humming uh-huh, yes?. I dont know why it played in Morristown, New Jersey. No effect? The 70-year-old . No ones supposed to be the president. High Times: What was the first thing you wrote as a serious attempt to be a writer? So should I win the lottery, I will have that type of library. But because I was young, I had this long hair, and people used to try to tip me with joints. "Eric Adams I saw coming. I wanted to be a beatnik. I believe Im a great friend. I never write anyone letters. It could be clean and less dangerous, and not horrible, not under a tidal wave of tourists. In The Fran Lebowitz Reader, that first book has been re-released in combination with her second 1981 essay collection, Social Studies. At the beginning, every day, you asked me a hundred questions about myself. But now, as Ive grown up, all my friends have developed much more mature writing habits. To celebrate, were republishing Glenn OBriens interview with the living legend from the August, 1978 print edition of High Times. It went on at five-thirty or six in the morning. Romantic love is mental illness. But this was the 60s, and there were all of these Harvard medical students there learning to be doctors, so all the doctors in the hospital had hair down to their shoulders and granny glasses. I saw the only job that was worse than writing. But . In "Public Speaking," the initial documentary, Ms. Lebowitz brilliantly notes that one of the great tragedies of the AIDS crisis was that the city lost not only a generation of artists and. One of my all-time favorite funny people was Jack Douglas. They had a style sheet that was kind of the opposite of the New York Times. So we always have this fight, because I have a biography section, and he doesnt like that, because its so inelegant to have a biography section. CLEMENTE: Did you take drugs before you were 19? High Times: Tell me about your career as a poet. High Times: Have you gotten any marriage proposals? ' Thats how I feel. In the mid-70s, she began to write for The Village Voice, but it was at The New Yorker, where she became a regular columnist for the Talk of the Town section, that everything changed for her. I wish it was still on, except now I guess it would be too modern. LEBOWITZ: Im following it, but in a way, I also feel the way I feel about the Kardashians: I feel like its following me. She said theyd take one pack out and then move the rest up. I did not connect eating with staying alive, so I didnt think anything of eating the food. I have to take the TV off the chair. And I read them. I would read it to him, because you cant read my writing. All rights reserved, In an essay specially commissioned for the podcast, Aisha Sabatini Sloan describes rambling around Paris with her father, Lester Sloan, a longtime staff photographer for. They had one guy who was like an Elvis imitator, only he imitated Oscar Wilde. . Like love does. Like, in World War I, a whole generation of Englishmen died all at once. This conversation began at a public event at the 92nd Street Y in 2013, and was picked up again in her Vermont kitchen eight years later, in the summer of 2021, when the social restrictions of the pandemic had, for a time, eased. 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